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Sales methodologies vs qualification frameworks: where PEPITA™ fits

BANT and MEDDPICC compared with SPIN, Challenger and PEPITA™: what each is for, the six PEPITA™ stages in practice and how to use them in deal reviews.

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It is Monday's pipeline review. The deal on the screen has every box ticked: budget confirmed, decision maker named, need agreed, decision due this quarter. It has also not moved in five weeks, and the salesperson's best explanation is that the customer has gone quiet.

Most sales leaders have sat in that meeting. The qualification was done properly, but the checklist could not show whether the conversations behind it had given the customer a strong reason to act. This article explains how qualification frameworks differ from conversation methodologies, then takes the six stages of our own model, PEPITA™, one at a time.

  • 40 to 60%

    of deals lost to buyers who intended to buy but did not act

    Source: Dixon and McKenna, HBR, 2022

  • 17%

    of B2B buying time spent meeting potential suppliers

    Source: Gartner

  • 6 to 10

    decision makers in a typical complex B2B purchase

    Source: Gartner

Put together, those figures explain why the Monday meeting is so common: buyers give suppliers little of their time, more people have a say in the decision and many deals end with no decision at all.

Two kinds of tool that often get mixed up

Qualification frameworks are mainly used to judge whether an opportunity is real. Conversation methodologies guide what a salesperson does and says with the customer. The difference explains why a team can qualify thoroughly and still lose deals in the meeting room.

A working guide. MEDDICC Ltd describes MEDDPICC as a sales methodology, and many teams use it that way.
ModelMainly used forWhat it covers
BANTQualifying leadsBudget, Authority, Need, Timeline
CHAMPQualifying leadsChallenges, Authority, Money, Prioritisation
ANUMQualifying leadsAuthority, Need, Urgency, Money
MEDDPICCChecking complex dealsMetrics, Economic Buyer, Decision Criteria, Decision Process, Paper Process, Identify Pain, Champion, Competition
SPIN SellingRunning the conversationSituation, Problem, Implication and Need-payoff questions
ChallengerRunning the conversationTeach, tailor, take control
PEPITA™Running the conversation and the dealPrepare, Explore, Pain, Impact, Translate, Advance

What the qualification frameworks do well

BANT is usually credited to IBM, which required business partners to confirm Budget, Authority, Need and Timeframe before an opportunity counted as validated. In larger sales, though, the budget often does not exist until someone has worked out what the problem is costing, so asking for it first can rule out a good opportunity. CHAMP and ANUM reorder BANT to put something other than budget first.

MEDDIC was created at PTC in 1996 by Dick Dunkel. Later versions added Competition (which MEDDICC Ltd defines to include doing nothing) and Paper Process (the steps to a signed contract). The Economic Buyer is the person who can approve the spend, and a Champion is someone inside the customer who argues your case. It is the most thorough checklist most teams have for complex deals, though it leaves the salesperson to find all this out without the customer feeling they are filling in a form.

What the conversation methodologies do well

Neil Rackham and his team studied more than 35,000 sales calls over 12 years and found that many methods built for small sales, including closing techniques and objection handling, do not work for major ones. SPIN's Implication questions explore the knock-on effects of a problem, and its Need-payoff questions invite the customer to state the value of solving it.

The Challenger Sale by Matthew Dixon and Brent Adamson drew on CEB research into more than 6,000 sales reps. Among star performers, 39% were Challengers, who teach the customer something new, tailor the message to the person and take control of the sale. Only 7% were Relationship Builders, the profile least likely to produce a star.

PEPITA™ is the model at the centre of our consultative sales training. It puts extra weight on what the salesperson does before the call and on what they say once they have listened. At any point in a conversation a salesperson can ask: what stage am I in, and what do I still need to understand? When a deal stalls, it usually shows which stage was skipped.

The six stages of PEPITA™

The stages usually run in order, but the model is a loop: a good advance feeds the next round of preparation. The stages work in a single meeting and across a deal that runs for months.

PEPITA™ at a glance

  1. Stage 1PrepareArrive with a point of view you can test.
  2. Stage 2ExploreUnderstand their world before you try to solve anything.
  3. Stage 3PainFind the problem that is worth solving.
  4. Stage 4ImpactHelp the customer weigh the cost of doing nothing.
  5. Stage 5TranslateConnect what you offer to what they need.
  6. Stage 6AdvanceAgree a clear next step in every conversation.

Prepare: arrive with a point of view you can test

Prepare is the only stage that happens before you are in the room. Its job is to earn the right to lead the conversation, and at its core is a working hypothesis: “I suspect that, because of X, they are likely under pressure to Y.” You also decide in advance what would prove you wrong. Here is an example from twenty minutes of research on a mid-sized software firm.

  • The facts: two competitors merged last quarter, a new CFO has joined from a private-equity-backed business and they are hiring pricing analysts.
  • The hypothesis: they are under pressure to defend margin and professionalise pricing within the year.
  • What would prove it wrong: talk of growth hires, new markets or investment cases.
  • The opening: “When two competitors merge, pricing discipline usually becomes the board's favourite subject within a couple of quarters. I suspect that's already landed on your desk, and I wanted to test whether it's connected to the pricing roles you're hiring for.”

The common mistake is opening with “So, tell me about your business”, which hands the customer the work you were supposed to do. Good preparation covers the research and your own mindset, so before your next call try our Ten-Minute Routine. Spend five minutes on the research: why this conversation and why now, what would disprove my hypothesis, who is in the room and what next step do I want? Then spend five minutes on yourself: what story am I telling myself about this meeting, and what braver question could I ask?

Explore: understand their world before you solve anything

Explore is where the hypothesis meets reality. Open with your point of view, hand the customer the floor and let them correct you. Ask about their world before their problem: their plans, what is changing and who else is affected.

Two ways to run discovery

Running a survey

  • “What's your budget for this?”
  • “Who signs it off?”
  • “When do you need it by?”

Exploring their world

  • “What are you trying to achieve over the next year or two, and what is getting in the way?”
  • “What is changing in your market that makes this matter now?”
  • “Who else lives with this, and how do they see it?”
The questions on the left still need answers. They land better once the customer has talked about their world.

Two habits get in the way. We call the first the fix: offering a solution three sentences into the customer's story. The second is the hijack: answering their difficult week with a story about yours. On your next call, every time you feel the urge to say “we can help with that”, ask one more question instead.

One swap changes the tone of a whole meeting: replace “What do you need?” with “Where do you want to go?”

Pain: find the problem worth solving

The first problem a customer mentions is rarely the real one. PEPITA™ works through three layers of pain, starting where the customer is comfortable. You rarely reach the personal layer without going through the other two first.

The three layers of pain

  1. Layer 1

    Operational

    What is broken in the day to day. Customers will happily tell you about this.

    “Where do things get stuck, and what does that cost in time, quality or rework?”

  2. Layer 2

    Strategic

    What is at risk in the direction of the business. They will tell you once you dig.

    “Where is this slowing down something more important?”

  3. Layer 3

    Personal

    What is at stake for the person in front of you, such as reputation, workload or ambition. Rarely said out loud.

    “What does this mean for you, personally?”

Our favourite question for this stage is “What is slowing you down the most right now?” Nobody has to share a feeling to answer it, and “the most” asks them to prioritise. Try it on your next call, then follow up with “What have you learned to live with?”

Listen for strong words. When a customer says something has become “a real bugbear”, slow down: “My ears prick up when I hear you say that. Tell me more.” If they turn polite instead, you may be pushing a problem they do not have.

Impact: what the problem costs and what solving it is worth

A customer can agree there is a problem and still do nothing, because living with it feels easier than the effort of change. Kahneman and Tversky found that losses loom larger than gains of the same size, and Samuelson and Zeckhauser showed how strongly people stick with what they already have. Impact first helps the customer see what doing nothing will cost them, then what becomes possible once the problem is solved.

The customer should put the numbers on it, so ask rather than tell:

  • “When you add up the time, the money and the knock-on effects, what is this really costing you?”
  • “Left unaddressed, what does this cost you a year from now compared with today?”
  • “If this were solved properly, what would that make possible?”

Elliot Aronson showed that people change their attitudes and behaviour more deeply and for longer when they argue the case to themselves, which is also the logic of Rackham's Need-payoff questions. And once the customer has put a figure on the cost, the budget question becomes a conversation about value.

Translate: connect what you offer to what they need

Translate is where you present, and the skill is in what you leave out. First reflect the customer's situation, pain and stakes back to them. Then show how the relevant part of what you do meets what they need, in their words. Your company may sell eleven things. If this customer needs one and a half of them, the recommendation that wins presents the one and a half.

John Sweller's cognitive load theory holds that working memory is limited and that information which does not serve the task gets in the way of understanding. Sweller studied learning, and the same limit applies to anyone sitting through slide fourteen of forty. Before your next proposal meeting, cut your deck to the three slides that speak to what this customer named.

Advance: agree a clear next step

We teach four properties of an advance: it is specific, owned, dated and understood by both sides. Match the size of the step to the value you have built. Then test the yes you are given: after the meeting, send a follow-up email that confirms the step and see whether it holds.

Continuation or advance?

Continuation

  • “Let's touch base after the summer.”
  • “Send me some information.”
  • “We'll discuss it internally.”

Advance

  • “Can we book the working session before we leave this call?”
  • “Do we need the CFO in the room to sign this off?”
  • “You'll send the current process by Friday, and we'll bring a first draft back on the 14th.”

Objections often point to a stage that was not finished.

Reading objections through the PEPITA™ stages.
What the buyer saysStage likely unfinishedWhat to do
“It's too expensive.”ImpactAsk what sits behind it before you talk price
“It's not the right time.”PainGo back to the problem and who it affects
“We're happy with our current supplier.”ExploreAsk more about where they want to go
“Just send me a proposal.”Often a polite exitSuggest a working session to shape it together

How PEPITA™ works alongside BANT, MEDDPICC and SPIN

You do not need to throw away your qualification framework. Keep BANT or MEDDPICC in the CRM as the record of what you know, and use PEPITA™ to guide the conversations that fill it in.

Qualification itemWhere it comes upHow
Need, Identify PainExplore and PainThe customer names the problem and what sits beneath it
Metrics, BudgetImpactThe customer puts their own figures on the cost and the value
Authority, Economic BuyerPrepare and ExploreMapping who is involved, then asking who else lives with this
Decision Criteria, Decision ProcessExploreAsking how something like this was decided last time
CompetitionImpactDoing nothing is a competitor, and Impact puts a cost on it
ChampionTranslateGiving your champion the case in words they can repeat
Timeline, Paper ProcessAdvanceAgreeing dated next steps and who needs to sign

If your team already uses SPIN, there is nothing to unlearn: Situation questions sit in Explore, Problem questions in Pain and Implication and Need-payoff questions in Impact.

To find which parts of the sales conversation to work on first, try this three-minute self-assessment.

Find your sales development priorities

Who are you answering about?

For each statement, choose how often it happens in your own sales conversations at the moment.

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For sales managers: using the stages in deal reviews

Pick one deal that has stalled and work back through the stages with the salesperson. The question they cannot answer usually points to the stage that was skipped.

  • Prepare: what was your hypothesis, and what was the one next step you wanted?
  • Explore: whose version of the truth do we have, and who have we not heard from?
  • Pain: which layer of pain is this deal built on?
  • Impact: can you state the cost of doing nothing and the value of acting, in the customer's own figures?
  • Translate: what did you leave out of the recommendation, and why?
  • Advance: what exactly did the customer agree to do next, and by when?

Then count how many of last week's meetings ended in an advance and how many in a continuation. Take “staying in touch” out of your pipeline statuses, and treat every unplanned discount as a sign that Impact may have been skipped. Most teams find the same one or two stages missing again and again, and that is where to put your development time.

How to make it stick

Hermann Ebbinghaus showed that memory for new material fades quickly without review, and a meta-analysis by Cepeda and colleagues, covering 317 experiments, found that spreading learning out helps people remember more than cramming. That is why our programmes spread the workshop days over several weeks, with live deals in between. Role-play with feedback and a second attempt follows what Anders Ericsson called deliberate practice. And a meta-analysis by Blume and colleagues linked support from managers and peers to whether people use new skills back at work, which is why the weekly deal review matters.

Questions people ask about sales methodologies and qualification frameworks

What is the difference between a sales methodology and a qualification framework?

A sales qualification framework such as BANT or MEDDPICC is a checklist for judging whether an opportunity is real and how far it has progressed. A sales methodology such as SPIN Selling, Challenger or PEPITA™ guides what the salesperson does and says in the conversation itself. Most B2B sales teams use both: the framework records what they know about a deal and the methodology is how they find it out.

Is MEDDPICC a sales methodology or a qualification framework?

MEDDPICC is mostly used as a qualification framework for complex B2B deals, although MEDDICC Ltd describes it as a sales methodology. It began as MEDDIC, created at PTC in 1996 by Dick Dunkel, and later versions added Paper Process and Competition. It sets out what a salesperson needs to find out about a deal, so many teams pair it with a conversation methodology for how to find it out.

What is the difference between SPIN Selling and BANT?

BANT is a qualification checklist, usually credited to IBM, covering Budget, Authority, Need and Timeline. SPIN Selling is a questioning method that came out of Neil Rackham's research into more than 35,000 sales calls, built on Situation, Problem, Implication and Need-payoff questions. BANT tells you whether a deal is qualified and SPIN helps you run the conversation that qualifies it. In larger sales, asking BANT's budget question first can rule out a good opportunity before the customer has worked out what the problem costs.

What is the difference between an advance and a continuation in sales?

In Neil Rackham's research, an advance is an event, in the call or after it, that moves the sale forward towards a decision, such as a dated meeting with the finance director to sign off the business case. A continuation is a meeting that ends with the customer agreeing no specific action, such as “send me some information”. The PEPITA™ Advance stage is built on this distinction, and counting how many of last week's meetings ended in each is a simple pipeline check for sales managers.

Our consultative sales training is built on PEPITA™ and practised on your own products, buyers and live deals. Bring us three opportunities that have stalled and we will show you where each conversation went wrong, and what we would do about it.

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